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| Comments | By My Name is Khan @
Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:30 AM | (greatkhan) |
Frankly speaking that Imran Khan is not just a national leader but in my opinion He is an International level leader for the entire Muslims no doubt. He is the most honest, energetic, passionate, intellectual, and having the true wisdom and vision that not only Pakistan but the entire Muslims need right now. He has the right guts, skills, and agenda that can take out Pakistan from the mess Pakistan has been suffering for the last 62 years. I have no doubt to say that lack of support from Pakistanis towards PTI is absolutely not Imran Khan misfortune but indeed it is the biggest misfortune of the Pakistan is a nation who don't recognize such a diamond I mean IK. He is the man of highest caliber with true intellect and concrete program that can make Pakistan a true Asian tiger in the real sense.
Unfortunately, in the last 62 years, forget about that we should have been the good Muslims but even we could not become good human beings. We always cry that we are suffering from inflation, no food, no jobs, no security, no justice etc but we always give our votes to those who make our conditions to such a miserable state or from bad to worse. And remember that ALLAH (the most high) does not change the state or condition of a nation unless they change their condition themselves, so we should work on ourselves first before crying for nothing.
Imran Khan along with honest PTI team will be succeeded InshaAllah when our nation is more terribly stricken by these oppressors (dirty and corrupt politicians and other stakeholders, and agencies etc as they all are the real enemies of Pakistan whether you agree or disagree but the fact is fact and you just can't distort it or deny it). I wish Imran and his sincere/ honest team all the best and I am not despaired of the mercy of ALLAH that someday Allah will bestow his mercy on IK and his team and ALLAH will change or melt the stubborn hearts of our Pakistanis so that they will make the right decision for their brightest future strong stability, well integrity, and overall solidarity of Pakistan by giving a chance to this great man of the current history I mean IK and his honest team.
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By tijaz @
Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:21 PM | (tijaz001) |
It is very interesteing to note the depth of questions put to IK in UK. It shows exactly what IK has been saying all along. Overseas Pakistanis are very passionate about Pakistan. they are already helping Pakistan financially but there is a 100 times more potential if there is an honest system in place in their mother homeland.
I have always wondered why IK keeps on repeating same message again and again. It has started to make sense when we look at much better showing of PTI in NA123. Looks like word is getting out. There is a momentum building. This is the time for all of us to get together and not let this momentum go. |
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By Hassan @
Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:10 PM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
Adressing overseas Pakistanis is so important I think,I mean when Khan sb. visited Sydney in OCT 08 that was excellent,since then including me and so many others actually started thinking aboout Pakistan,I mean Pakistan ki value ka undaza mujhe Pakistan se bahir aaker hua hai,Khan sb. Great leader hain aur excellent teacher bhi,May Allah Tallah bless PTI . Long live Imran Khan, Tehreek_e_Insaf Zindabad, Pakistan Paindabad. |
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By SIDDIQUE GOHAR @
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By Haroon @
Monday, March 15, 2010 12:30 AM | (safarian14) |
Imran - I need a PTI party ticket to NA14
I love you man |
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By Amim @
Monday, March 15, 2010 5:28 AM | (Amim) | |
The Pakistani diaspora, of which I am also a part, should not be used to define Party's manifesto, objectives, what have you. We don't understand what a common Pakistani wants. We can be a face of Pakistan and its representatives abroad, but elections have to be fought and won on the basis of Pakistanis living in Pakistan. |
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By Muazzmy.PTIAustralia @
Monday, March 15, 2010 5:56 AM | (Muazzmy007) |
@ Hassan bhai
we need IK once again on the soil of Australia... it is very important for Party , we are going to gift him 2 candidates for up coming elections......... IK is not only need of Pak but it is also need of the whole world...........
Longe live Pakistan Long live PTI lONG LIVE IK
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By kamran @
Monday, March 15, 2010 7:02 AM | (Evergreen) |
@To Rabia OR UK memebrs please convey this emssage to her.
Rabia Please go and take the mic and give whomever you want to give BUT do not stand at stage, especially just next to Khan sb, and keep pointing out at crowd and making different gesture. You really presence wasn't good because you were diverting the attention. Also, you seemed not interesting at all while staying at stage.
No personal thing...i like your work in UK but given to this video.....You should learn from it and improve in future. Thank you |
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By KKNIAZI @
Monday, March 15, 2010 3:36 PM | (KKNIAZI) |
Actions speak louder then words...........
Imran has two-faced approach.
One with which he talks about change, revolution, status quo and democracy in front of emotional youth and on TV channels.
Other with which he, in elections, come out with candidates like Jazi, Mairaj and perhaps many more to come, democracy in the party is a far cry so this is everything but not earlier.
Whatever it is but not something which can bring CHANGE, REVOLUTION and DEMOCRACY
The LOUD n CLEAR message which is going to the masses is "PTI is just another party with empty slogans"
Cheers, Kaleem |
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By hmcheema @
Monday, March 15, 2010 4:07 PM | (hmcheema) |
Kaleem bhai,
IK admitted party's selection in NA55 in part-3 of the above video. Lets hope the lesson has been learnt. |
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By KKNIAZI @
Monday, March 15, 2010 5:11 PM | (KKNIAZI) |
Certainly Hammad! As long as there is no sifting process i.e. democracy.
Such mistakes, mostly on impulsive decisions or rogue advise(r), will continue to mar the image of the party.
Instead of living in doldrums, the party should, by now, move to temperate climates.
Cheers, Kaleem
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By Khawaja Hussain @
Monday, March 15, 2010 5:26 PM | (khm22) | |
what does IK says in PART 3 at 1.30 . who was the oneman show?
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By Dr Ghaffer Kiani @
Monday, March 15, 2010 6:50 PM | (ghaffer) |
I can't understand why Imran Khan wears national dress in Pakistan and western outfit in UK (specially wearing jeans seems so awkward, like a munda khunda, not a leader). For some people it may not be an issue for me it is. It shows the mindset of the person. Also, unfortunately as a nation, no matter where ever we are, we can not be disciplined, when we have a motto of Unity, Faith, Discipline. Moreover, if every one in the audience is a Pakistani, why English is being used?
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By hamza @
Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:34 AM | (hamzasheikh) |
@ ghaffer kiani
i think your allegation on IK about his dressing is totally baseless and irrelavent. How does wearing jeans reflect his "mindset"?
IK's mindset is reflected by the service he has done for people of Pakistan,not by his language or dressing.He has served poor Pakistani people suffering from cancer,he is single-handedly fighting the corrupt and gangster mafia of the current ruling politicans,he is working to educate our people by building a university which will be a knowledge city,he has brought laurels to the country by winning us the '92 world cup,the list goes on. It is one's actions which reflect the 'mindset' of a person, not the fact that he or she wears jeans or speaks english.
Nawaz Sharif,Altaf Hussain and Zardari probably wear shalwaar kameez and speak urdu more often than IK.Does that make them better Pakistani's than IK?No,because they have looted and destroyed our country.
Its strange how people point out small,irrelavant negative things about IK and try to downplay him,when he is the ONLY honest and brave leader we have in Pakistan right now.
I would prefer a leader who wears jeans and speaks English but is honest and serving our people,as opposed to someone who speaks urdu,wears shalwar kameez but has done corruption worth 60 million dollars!
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By Dr Ghaffer Kiani @
Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:10 AM | (ghaffer) |
@ hamza Why can't he wear national dress, speak national language, feel pride in it and serve the nation too? To be honest I have hardly seen Mr Altaf Hussain in national dress (and others rarely too). What I wanted to say, if he feels awkward to wear his national dress abroad, he should do the same in Pakistan too. He might be thinking "do in the Rome as Romans do", but then have you ever seen any American etc in your country doing or wearing what you do? They don't, because they feel pride in there culture, dress, language etc. If you try to enter a five star hotel in Pakistan with Shalwar Kameez on, you may well be stopped by the guard on the gate. If you speak Urdu, you are considered backward. Who will change this mindset? Real leaders can do that with there own examples, Apes can't.
If you think dress or culture does not matter, then why can't we invite obama and Americans to come and rule our country. They wear pants but they will make you do a lot of progress. But then the question is: do you want to progress without your religious and cultural norms or pride?
I am PTI Information Secretary in Australia and working hard to bring Imran's dream true. The question I raised is the one which I hear from our opponents from time to time. If you had seen the recording of a program in UK in which Imran Khan was invited along with others (including Jaswant Singh) to talk about Pakistan, did you notice what Jaswant Singh was wearing? Do we wear something which we don't like? or feel proud of doing it?
I am not down playing Imran, rather trying to suggest some thing that he might consider to improve his leadership. He has to show that he has liberated himself from the slavery of western culture and norms and try to be what he is rather trying to be what he is not?
When I said the word "mindset", I meant when a man prefers western clothes or language over his own, it means he has an inferiority complex. Trust me, if Shalwar Kameez was American national dress and Urdu was there national language (while pant and English belonged to us), every ape in Pakistan would be wearing SK and speaking Urdu. Slaves have no culture, they always follow.
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By KKNIAZI @
Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:46 PM | (KKNIAZI) |
Kamran!
I am not sure whether she was a distraction there or not but last night a friend of mine referred to a talk show in a UK's local desi TV and she was there along with a PPP representative from UK.
Ms. ZIa although insisting that its a current affair show, admitted that even after passing 24 hours, she did not have a clue about the latest statement of Shahbaz Sharif and she cannot comment on that. it seems she was there for the sake of being there.
She was so loud that even with a "mute" button on I could hear her.
Any reps. esp overseas, when go on in any talk show should ensure that they do their homework.
Cheers, Kaleem |
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By hamza @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:50 AM | (hamzasheikh) |
@ ghaffer kiani
thanks for your reply.
I am not saying we should disrespect shalwar kameez and urdu language. We should definitely be proud of our culture and tradition. Infact PTI does not shy away from urdu as a primary language; all the posts on our main website page are in urdu. But what im saying is,there are other indicators which are more important than language or dress which indicate a persons nationalism or patriotism. There are alot of really patrioitic pakistanis (overseas and within) who do not speak urdru that well but that does not make them any less pakistani. A persons actions and deeds are a much better indicator of ones patriotism and nationalism.
you mentioned IK's opponents time and again raising issues about his dress and language etc. My advice to you is,the next time these 'opponents' come to u and say these things about IK, be on the offensive and ask them to first talk about their own leaders' corruption and lies,which have destroyed our country. These opponenets cannot find anything negative to say about IK because they know he is honest,so they try to target him on such petty issues. But we should actually be proud of our leader in every way and be on the offensive and target their corrupt leadership instead.
you mentioned about IK's inferiority complex and his slavery of western culture. I can easily say that IK is the only political leader right now who is firm and bold infront of western media and who is not complexed in any way. He can talk into the eyes of western media. He is the only leader who proudly represents us pakistanis today anywhere in the world. Infact it was IK who during his cricketing days encouraged other players not to feel inferior to the englishmen and thats why we won succussive series in england after that. IK was the one who abolished this 'master' 'slave' mentality. Before him we would succumb to the English team because our players would be complexed and timid infront of English media and players. If anyone is slave of western culture and media today, it is our current ruling elite, not IK.
i wish you good luck as PTI Information Secretary in Australia. Hopefully we can together fulfill IK's dream one day!
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By Hassan @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:11 AM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@hamza
agreed and just let me add to it please, look at great Quad_e_Azam,someone asked him in his last days to stop working as health is poor or so,Quaid said main chahta hun jab Allah ke samne jaun to Allah kahen ke well done Jinnah, un ka passion,leader ship qualities hi thin ke aik country le ke dedia hai jis ki qadr nakersake hum,aik Inch land kissi ko koi nahi deta and he faught for us for this land and by the blessing of Allah we have our own soil,un ka pehnawa bhi dekhlen,sherwani bhi aur soots bhi english bhi kamal boltey they, molana Highness Fazlul rehman (molana diesel) bhi hain hamarey, kessa islami pehnawa hai un ka aur kertoot????
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By Hassan @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:31 AM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@hamza, one more thing,do we remember what Khan sb. was wearing on the day Khan sb. got married,I think that ceremony was not in Pakistan and Khan sb,was wearing shalwar qameez,I think Khan sb.complexes se bohat uper hain. |
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By Dr Ghaffer Kiani @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:15 AM | (ghaffer) |
@hamza Don't you think national dress, national language or national sports etc does not come under the hood of nationalism? If you think these are not valid indicators, then please visit Germany, France or China etc and try to talk to them in English or any other language, they wont reply to you even if they knew English. They all made progress in there own languages and feel pride in it. French and Chinese have now almost become international languages. If you could follow the proceeding of any Olympics games etc, you would have noticed the announcements in English, French and Chinese. If language and culture was not that important, why these countries have there language and cultural centers in every part of the world. Wait for the day when China becomes the super power and then you will notice that most of Pakistani apes would be doing "cheen paan cheen paan" because, as I said, slaves have no culture or pride they always follow the dominant culture.
To be honest, I can't be aggressive with Khan's critics on this particular issue because I also believe in what they say. Also, when I say metal slavery, I am not just talking about Imran, I am focusing on the whole nation.
@haasan I have come across this illogical statements about Quaid and Iqbal dress code so many times and still believe that the logic is not right. No doubt they were one of the greatest leaders of recent times, but please remember, both of them were born as British (Indians). The official and national language of British India was English and the dress code they brought to India was suit. That's why they followed their national dress and language. Can you please see Quaid what he used to wear after Pakistan came into being? Did you ever see Quaid in Sherwani before partition? Why did he change his dress when his nationality changed from British Indian to Pakistani. I think there is a great message in it. And remember, despite they being some of the greatest leaders, they might have some weaknesses too. No one among them was a prophet. It means one of us can try to become even better leader then them or any one leader of recent times.
As far as Maulana Diesel and his dress code is concerned, I remembered one statement from another person who said this: "A rich man wanted to hire a cook for his home. He got two cooks for interview. One was expert in cooking but was not honest and the other was honest but not good at cooking. So whom should he give the job to? So the answer was he should give job to the best cook even if he steals some money." But the trouble with this example is why can't we have a cook who is honest and good at cooking too? So in the light of this example: Molana Diesel wears national dress but he is not honest, while imran does not care about national dress but he is honest. Why can't one have both the attributes to offer one's services? I believe that Abdul Sattar Edhi has done more for Pakistan than Imran Khan in social sector, then why is he not considered a leader? Because leaders are more than just social workers. They lead us in our ideology, our culture, our traditions, our religion and in every thing which is ours.
I believe that as a nation we are very ill-directed due to confused ideologies that surround us and the only way it can change is through "ideological leadership". A leadership which is "half-pigeon and half crow" can not do any good to the nation!!!!
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By Hassan @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:18 PM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@ghaffer kiani,
I do agree with you and I also am very against of choosing less bad kind of thinking,secondly this topic does not worth so much debate. this is not argument but this is infact thought sharing, Regards with Quaid_e_Azam's dress code before and after partition in terms of true patriotism if considered as lesson acording to you then I should be called traitor in australlia as I wear shalwar Kameez very often even in markets and social circle and on the other hand if as born australian if I go to Pakistan and wear suit then should I be considered as some one who is suffering from inferiority complex???? reasonable mind should say a big NO. May be you missed what I said before but I would say it again that Khan sb.was WEARING SHALWAR QAMEEZ (LIGHT COLOURED) IN HIS VERY OWN MARRIAGE CEREMONY WHICH WAS NOT HELD IN PAKISTAN. I thinnk that should do. |
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By Dr Ghaffer Kiani @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:36 PM | (ghaffer) |
@Hassan I am sorry to say, but if you are a born Australian, then you may not necessarily need to follow Pakistan (in terms of culture and ideologies) as your parents chose Australia over Pakistan and which shows their preferences. For me, changing one's motherland is like changing one's mother. I will never prefer to do that. I think, Pakistani parliament should pass a resolution is which the nationality of person should be seized once he or she chose to migrate to other countries. Dual nationalities (half pigeon half crow) must not be allowed. Quaid did not change his nationality rather created a nation and history.
Wearing traditional dress on weddings is a norm which most of us might do. But what we do in day to day life is what shows our intent. |
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By Hassan @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:59 PM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@ghaffer Kiani,
I am not Australian born Alhamdulillah,I said IF AS BORN AUSTRALIAN. as example to your point of Quaid_e_Aazam being born British and you started streching the chewing gum of dress code doctor sb.(just example Kiani sb). My parents never been here neither they want to. I am sorry I thought that be but it was not. sorry if I offended you but donot be so personel,as I said it is not an argument it is thought sharing, Ghussa hi ker gain hani app to,parliment chaley gai hain. |
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By Hassan @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:37 PM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@ghaffer Kiani,
Imean Kiani sb.Ghussa side pe rukh ker sochain to shayad samajh aajai,I mean pollitical dicussion main decency honi chahiye BUDTAMIZI nahi.
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By Dr Ghaffer Kiani @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:32 PM | (ghaffer) |
@hassan I think I have been decent and tried to indulge in an healthy discussion. I hope its not offensive for you, were just few thoughts. By the way I hate chewing gum :)
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By Hassan @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:22 PM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@ghaffer kiani
If lesson is learnt all is fine.By the way Kiani sb. I dont like them at all but have them on and off,Gums ke liye achi hai aur zubaan bhi qaboo main rehti hai :-)
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By Hassan @
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:24 PM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@ghaffer kiani
kha liya karen kabhi kabhi :-)
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By hamza @
Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:29 AM | (hamzasheikh) |
@ ghaffar kiani ...........
national dress or lanuage certainly reflect nationalism, but my point is, there are too many other important things which reflect nationalism and patriotism more than dress or language. The other thing is, if IK goes abroad and speaks and addresses an audience in English, whats wrong in that?this program where he addressed the gathering English, I bet half the hall is full of pakistanis at Queen's Mary college who may not even understand urdu that well because they probably grew up in UK and spent half their life there. If he spoke in English to get his point across better to the audience, there is nothing wrong in that. It does not mean that IK, or the students who were asking him questions, are any less pakistani than anyone else. It does not mean that they have a 'slave' mentality towards the West.
infact we should take this as a positive that IK is competent in English and can represent us pakistanis proudly when he goes abroad. Bottomline is, English is an international language and in order to compete with other countries and live in this world, its competance has to be acquired. And we should have a leader who is fluent in it so that he/she can represent us on any international forum. Speaking English in a gathering abroad does not depict slavery.
Why did you and I learn english? is it because we are slaves? no,it is because it is an international language which is spoken worldwide, including Pakistan.
Yes, I have been to afew european countries. The reason they dont speak any language other than their own is that they dont even know how to speak English! Most native germans do not know anything but german, native italian dont know anything but italian, just like most native Pakistani dont know anything but urdu! But if you meet any of these people on neutral territory(e.g UK,US or Aus), they will speak in English because its an international language. It does not mean that they have become slaves of UK or US or have any inferiority complex,or it does not mean they are not nationalists or patriotic.
the reason im trying to raise these points is, there are too many misconceptions about IK and people like IK. Many people in pakistan dont accept IK as their leader, because of their perceptions about him like: 'he is a hypocrite', 'should not speak in english', 'maghrib ka agent hai', 'gori se shaadi kee', 'dress code is not right' etc. These people are willing to accept zardari and Sharif as their leaders, knowing that they have looted the country, and are corrupt,and murderers, but they target IK on such petty and minor issues. IK's contributions to this country are too big and huge such that things like what he speaks or wears should not in any way undermine his contributions. His patriotism and nationalism is reflected by his actions and deeds, not by anything else. This principle applies to other people like IK too.
I also do not agree with this notion that once you move abroad or acquire any other nationality, your original pakistani nationality should be cancelled etc. Today, overseas pakistani who have two,three,four nationalities are contributing millions of rupees yearly to pakistan by transferring their money from abroad to inside pakistan. These pakistanis sitting abroad are our strength and asset. If these pakistanis have worked hard abroad all their life and acquired a nationality of another country, there is nothing wrong in that. They are still contributing significantly for our own country. Cancelling their pakistani pasports will be illogical and a big loss to us. Besides, many of these pakistanis are not there by choice. They are there because these corrupt rulers and establishment looted our country for the last 60 years, leaving no opportunities for them inside their own country. Their heart and soul still lies inside pakistan. Again, it does not make them less patriotic than anyone else.
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By Dr Ghaffer Kiani @
Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:13 AM | (ghaffer) |
@hamza According to your logic the president of China is not competent because he can't speak English? Have you seen Chinese president speaking English at UN general assembly address? Your presidents do? Then your president and your country should be more competent than China? Is that the case? We can also speak in Urdu and translators can do their job. Learning languages is not a bad thing but preferring it over one's own language in not right in my opinion.
Once on Paris international airport when I asked the staff how to get to Eiffel Tower (where my friend lived) in English, they kept quite. Do you think staff on international airport do not or should not know English? Luckily I knew a little bit of French and when I posed the same question in French, they smiled and responded. About neutral place, yes they have to speak English because they are left with no choice, but look at Pakistan, what we prefer to do even when we are in our country. Do we feel pride speaking Urdu over English?
Regarding, canceling nationality, this is done in India and you can see they are surviving. Remember, most of them don't send money for the sake of Pakistan, rather for their families. Once the families move out, mostly they don't care about Pakistan. By having multiple nationalities, they enjoy many rights within Pakistan which is not justified with the local people. They serve other nationalities and get benefits from Pakistan at the cost of some money which they send to families not Pakistan.
I think I have said a lot on this issue. I won't comment any further. Readers have enough to read and compare.
Regards.
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By Hassan @
Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:31 PM | (Hassan Javed 1123) |
@ghaffer Kiani two villages in Sindh also deserve your respect which you have for Paris INternational Airport staff,Ghott jo Bhuggio and Bhago Burroro,people there would not speak in Urdu with you while they can ,would not even pass a smile, would not care about any thing unless you speak in Sidhi.Sir please they also deserve your virtual heartiest respact which you have for Paris International Airport staff, And why did not you speak in Urdu when you asked them about the tower in on the first place. And offcourse I am sure you be wearing shalwar qameez at the airport,and yes do not forget to have a gum in pocket sir, Allah APP ko Khush rukhey. |
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By Irfan @
Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:42 PM | (isonawala) |
Dear Ghaffer,
You certainly do have a point. Nevertheless, that raises out of you being raised in Gilgit and watching too many Sultan Rahi movies :) That was a joke btw.
Seriously now, I would say 'Rebuilding Nation' has to be removed from the twentieth century Jingoism. I certainly believe in Pluralism but that somehow does not land itself on assigning religious domain to nationalism. I know the response that I am going to see, "how nationalism has religious domain? etc."
I don't want to stretch it more than it already has, but would certainly recommend you Benedict Anderson's "Imagined Communities".
How is your PhD coming along? Give regards to Ahmar and all your family. |
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By pakistan zindabad @
Monday, May 03, 2010 7:43 AM | (passionn880) | |
u doing gr8 job and may Allah help u more thats my prayer 2 u ik |
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